New Calvinists and Emergents light up the wires

Jesus Creed Post – and the nearly 250 comments about Calvinists .

McCall – Two Cheers for Resurgence of Calvinism (and some cautions) – 148 Comments (many of which prove McCall’s cautions) and 34 links (make that 35 now.)

Emergent’s New Christians and the Young and Restless Reformed Christianity Today

Colin Hansen:

Emergents embrace paradox, especially those that are core components of the Christian story.” The Bible affirms both divine sovereignty and human responsibility. But who knows how these twin truths always correspond? I love what J. I. Packer writes in Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God: “The desire to oversimplify the Bible by cutting out the mysteries is natural to our perverse minds, and it is not surprising that even good men should fall victim to it.”

Day 2

Hansen: Can you help me understand how Emergent Christians tend to view the atoning work of Jesus? . . . How do you evade foundationalism and still affirm the inspiration and authority of Scripture?

Jones: There have been five or six major theological theories to explain the atoning work of Jesus on the cross over the last two millennia. Each of them, you might say, shines a spotlight on the cross from a different angle. Emergents want all those spotlights, figuring that the more light we can shed on the cross, the better we can understand it. One spotlight is fine. Six is better.

Day 3


When you have two groups that care so much about theology, you’ll always have something to talk about. E-mail conversations like this are helpful; sharing a meal together is even better. There is a tendency for all of us to write things for the Web that we would not say across a table. Nothing can substitute for the immediate give-and-take of face-to-face dialogue. I hope these interactions will continue and forestall the rush toward entrenchment in polemical blogs and books. . .


. . . . I get the sense from the young, Reformed guys I know that they share some of the epistemic humility that we have in Emergent. They don’t speak with quite the certain tones of the older Reformed crowd. I think this humility about knowledge actually jibes perfectly with the Reformed doctrine of Total Depravity (i.e., if our intellects are depraved, how can we be so sure that we’re right about, say, depravity?). Has this humility rubbed off on the older Reformed generation at all?

[Stay tuned for the response. IMHO ;-), tone can be as critical as content; tone says something about you and what you think of people. Note, this does not mean giving up convictions.]

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